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Where do I get these random inspirations? And always late into the night.. :faint:


In Prime-verse Soundwave and Megatron(us) met in the Gladiator pits and fought equally, but it was never shown nor written more than just a mention (yet). Since I wanted to draw action, this just basically came into my head and the idea grew little by little..

No matter how I look at Soundwave, I can't help thinking he's a freaking monster; Insane strength added with knowing almost everything since he's a spy.

I basically feel sad that Prime is for wide audience, including kids so it can't get more "serious" ;^;

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ps. I bet they both liked fighting back those days!

Soundwave & Megatron - Transformers Prime Hasbro ect.
random host character me lol;

tools used: OpenCanvas5 + Wacom Intuos2, 1 layer.


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StormFireGirl Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2017
I forgot how much this show had so many hints and underlying things, including a reference made by Knockout about 'interfacing' (any Transformer fangirl I know of course knows what this term means). You created such an interesting piece, showcasing the very moment the two faced off against each other and sparked a working relationship that lasted to the end of the War.
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JigokuShoujo44 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2015
My gosh...That's just awesome the way you drew them. I love the fact that Soundwave is about to win in your drawing (it is said he almost managed to defeat Megatron) while at the end it is Megatron who won.

I like their relationship. And yes, Soundwave is insane and kinda scary but I just adore his loyalty to Megatron. I don't know if you read the Titan comic but in this, their relationship take a new level and it is shown that Megatron cares for Soundwave in return because he saved his life at one point while he could have let him die.
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Back in the days Soundwave sure looked very buffed up, so wouldn't he be able to possibly win Megatron? Though they fought equally, and my interpretation is that it might have been a draw between them! :eager:

Mmhm. Soundwave's loyalty to Megatron in Prime was well thought out. :love: I've also read the Titan comics and they were a bit silly, but canon anyway. Megatron saving and carrying Soundwave on his back felt very out of character for both but well, what can I do? XD
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JigokuShoujo44 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2015
Well. Soundwave is one of most powerful characters and a major threat. Even if Megatron won, he must have had some difficulties to do this. I like how you made Soundwave almost scary there (he is either scary or cute depending of his reactions^^)

Megatron has respect for Soundwave and I like to think that he may care a bit about him deep down. In Titan, he could have let him die but his reaction shows he cares in his way. Unfortunately this part was before the war. Who knows what were Megatron's feelings in Prime. As we don't know much his point of view about his relationship with Soundwave we can interpret it like we want. In any case, that's a good thing that Soundwave was already in ShadowZone when Megatron died in season 3 finale. His reaction if he had witnessed his death would have been murderous I think.
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Didn't Megatron.. yeah found it! "I'm just short of generals"! :XD: The whole thing we read was from the view point of Optimus, until Megs said that, right? So like you said, there's a lot of room for interpretation to a direction or another. It's also a bit sad that the Prime books versus Titan comics contradicts how the war starts, as Optimus was still Orion Pax and a librarian, not a warrior or anything like in the comics. And the war hadn't started until Orion became Optimus? I can't really hold together three different versions of it in my head. Hahha...

The shadowzone... We can only imagine how Soundwave felt when Megatron died. x_x; I wonder if Megatron even wondered why he didn't come for his rescue but waiiiit. The only one who came to Megs' rescue was Dreadwing and even that was disobeying orders. 
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JigokuShoujo44 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2015
Yes there is a lot of contradictions but still, as Transformers is in general. But still it is a good thing that we get many versions of what happened because everyone can choose the one they want.  About Megatron while he is a monster in Prime (well he isn't but sorta) I think there is still a tiny spark of him which isn't completely twisted. While he views his subordinates as tools I think Soundwave (and Optimus too) are the only ones he views as people.

Yes. Ii think Soundwave would have killed Bumblebee a second time if he had witnessed Megatron's death. If he had been there, Autobots would have lost I think. The only one who reacted was Starscream but as Shockwave stopped him they didn't kill them to avenge Megatron.
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd rather that the writers actually communicated with each other and decided certain plot points being rock solid instead of everyone thinking up their own versions that contradict each other. :stare: It's exact same as the studio that made Rescue Bots decided that the series belonged to the same aligned continuity as Prime, and ... YEAH, that would mean in Transformers Prime, Optimus has two alt-modes, one truck, the second being a T-REX! All this would happen before the movie because of what happens to OP there, right? How does that sound? Convincing? Not so much. To tie together those two universes would mean everything in Rescue Bots happens AFTER the movie and after Robots in Disguise, but even then it would be contradicting, because Bumblebee doesn't talk in RB, he beeps! :la:

So yeah, I'm not a fan at all of the "leave it to interpretation and choose which you want to be the truth", which simply means Transformers Prime, Rescue Bots, War for Cybertron, Fall of Cybertron and the three books (I haven't read the last one) written to be the aligned continuity IS NOT ONE AND THE SAME UNIVERSE AT ALL in my headcanon! :D :D :D Way too much contradiction to all directions it just makes my head hurt. :lol: I just wish Hasbro made finally a clear statement and dismissed the whole aligned continuity once and for all and keep those series separate. (Except for TFP and RiD2015)

What comes to Megatron, the only moment I saw him not twisted and not gaining something for his own good, was the end of the Predacons Rising movie. In the books he was just batshit crazy and manipulating piece of arse hole, in the TFP series he was as bad and even more cunning, in the games he was just greedy over power like nothing else... I don't see much good in him, even in the past he was thirsty for power and enjoyed to show the people how strong he was. Soundwave was similar, and he was good at what he was doing. He supported the idea driven by Megatron until the very end. So those two had a mutual idea of how things should be and what they needed to do.

If Soundwave wasn't in the shadowzone, yes, he most likely would have been there to even prevent Megatron's death in the first place, but the kids (sadly) got him with the spacebridge trick. When Megatron died, I highly doubt the troops had much willpower to continue the fighting outside of Starscream (whom let go of Arcee to clarify Megatron being killed/dead instead of killing her or trying to kill her) who then fled with Shockwave (whose priority in life is science, not the Decepticon cause) and the few Vehicons that ended up in the brig with Knock Out in the movie. Rest of the Vehicons were helping to rebuild Cybertron!

Hmmhmhmm.
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Yes I always thought that Hasbro made a bit rushed the explanation about Aligned Continuity because there are a lot of contradictions. Especially about  the true prequel of Prime, while War of Cybertron and the novels were different? And I do'nt view Rescue Bot in the same universe as Prime either. It wouldn't make any sense. As for TFP and RID2015 the only thing I hope is there is more links between the two series. I'm okay we see Bumblebee but I would like to see the others members too. Where is Ratchet? Where is Arcee? Where are the others? I like the new characters but it isn't the same as TFP.

Yes Megatron is so complex (in any way every characters especially Decepticons are complex and that's what made them interesting). In any media he was shown as an evil monster. His relationship with Soundwave could be viewed  definitely as a professional one between two people who have the same interest. The only times where Megatron had a liking in someone is when this person brought something useful to him (even whe Shockwave returned Megatron was happy but only because he was a great advantage for Decepticons).
However I still view Soundwave a bit apart. For example, Soundwave was never a SiC while he was the most loyal of everyone. I think it isn't  a bad thing because you see that every SIC never  end well. I think maybe Soundwave is a bit out of hierarchy. Furthermore, the fact that there is some hints that Megatron cares for Soundwave, (Like when Soundwave is kidnapped or in "Triangulation" episode" if I recall well) And usually as Soundwave is strong he almost accomplish his mission successfully. Then I think that Soundwave knew Megatron before he became the monster of hatred he was today so that's why I think Megatron views Soundwave as something more than a tool. Unfortunately because of what Megatron is, I think he cares like a sociopath would care for a tool (but again almost every Decepticons are)

You don't like the kids? (^^) Yes, Soundwave was the strongest after Megatron so, killing him would have caused Autobots's downfall. He was the only one I think who was loyal to Megatron without any question and not only because of Decepticon cause but because of Megatron too I think. I'm sad for Soundwave and I hope he will manage to leave the Shadowzone :(
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Noddity nod nod. Now there's a lot I can agree with! :la: Though the part with Soundwave being kidnapped was that Starscream was worried that he would spill out their secrets, but Megatron said that he trusted Soundwave not to do such thing. And that... gave us a very wonderful scene with Soundwave crashing his head and talking! :eager:

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Miko fan! :love: What I meant with that part was that it was sad that Soundwave got trapped into the Shadowzone. :( He'll get out of there, eventually! He just has to! Perhaps with help of Shockwave if Soundwave stayed inside the Nemesis when they returned to Cybertron.
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Evejones6 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2015
The most epic fight of all times!!!
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pika Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks!!! :heart: :heart: :heart: I wish Hasbro would make those two meeting int he gladiator pits as a scene in canon. ;u;/
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Evejones6 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2015
Yup one day , one day :.)
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Jingsel Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
So brilliant, omg! :icontfpsoundwavelaplz:

I only watched the episodes and can't recall hints of both of them fighting (the only flashbacks were at the very beginning and end of season 1, I think). I guess the idea for this comic grew from some additional merch?

Anyways, the drawing looks so fascinatingly tidy and (speaking of colors) simple, expressing everything without needing further üainting or so. And the composition of the panels supports the strained "calm before the storm" right before the fight (top third of the comic) as well as the tensed beatup right after. So much room for interpretation! :happybounce: 
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pika Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Omg, art comment!!! :faint: I gets those so rarely.  Thank you very much! Neko Emoji-16 (Blush) [V1]

The mention of Soundwave and Megatron fighting in the gladiator pits was mentioned in the first book, Transformers: Exodus, or was it Exiles. Which ever it was, it's there, written by Alex Irvine. Though the books weren't that good and contradicts already even more of the Prime universe~

 
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Jingsel Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
(excuse me for taking so long for replying)

Absolutely no problem!

Ah, thank you very much! Maybe I can get a copy here, even though you say they aren't "that good". But hey, it's a bit more of everyone's favourite shaoe-shifting robotic lifeforms :D
I was a bit upset to see the series end after only 3 Seasons v.v
But well, we have to be thankful for that I guess
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Np for late reply! Better late than never! :la: Right? :la:;

Yeah, Prime ended too short, but well, I have my Rescue Bots!!! Snif..Is Beautiful..Onion 
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Jingsel Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
It may sound weird because we haven`t talked much yet,but you are very, very sympathetic to me already xD

I still can't understand - I mean, only half a season for Beast Hunters! In my eyes, there had been so much potential for a lot more episodes than this ...


Rescue Bots, I think I heard of that but never actually watched. But I TRIED to start RID at least ^^
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Awww, thanks? :aww:

Hasbro just decided to call it quits, probably the second season of relic hunts and stuff didn't sell toys well. ;P Who knows! I had to get myself expensive ebay bought Takara Breakdown, because Hasbro didn't want to do the toy for it being too complex or something!

Rescue bots is cute, it's whole family show so it's okay! I've been enjoying it a lot! :la: WAITING FOR FOURTH SEASON!!!! :eager: You should try watch RiD2015 again. HINT HINT! ;)
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Jingsel Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Everytime - sometimes you encounter people that seem sympathetic to you right from the start, or at least after a short amount of time. By the way, would it be too impolite to ask if you use Skype? We could chat a bit if you are interested^^

*rollseyes* Yeah that is probably it. But it's not easy to get Transformers-merch anyway - here at least and I guess in Finland it's similar. I found myself lucky to find a legion class TFP-Soundwave in a toy store xD But what I'm really happy with and love very much are the Anniversary Mini-figures (i79.photobucket.com/albums/j13…)
Oh, sounds almost like custom :S and I believe it cost a lot of money.

Hmmm, maybe I should just give it a try.

Hint hint - so ... oh my gosh, thoughts and thoughts and thoughts O_O
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I do have skype but you have to send a note for that! ;)

I've bought almost all of my toys online. 12 toys out of 40+ I've found from the local toy stores like Toys'R'Us. Of course that makes them more pricey with postal fees, but I don't care. >3< Now I need to pick up commissions yet again to pay for all of that stuff I want. x'D Curse you expensive hobby, curse you!

Those Anniversary mini-figures are too cute for my taste. @_@;



Wait, what are you still waiting for? GO FOR IT! Watch it! xD
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JBaulmont Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2015   General Artist
Cool! We really feel how quick they fight.
It's a grin of Soundwave on his last panel?
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pika Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks and YES! He really is grinning in his last panel! :love:
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Alwayslovesport Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014
More
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Juditangelo Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2014
Impressive
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pika Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you! :aww:
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poisonouswords Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2013
Soundwave may be insane, but we must recognize that we all have our own monsters inside of our minds.
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pika Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't think Soundwave is insane but it's true that we all have our own monsters in our heads. No one can escape that.
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MusicAndArtIsMyLife Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
actually Soundwave IS insane, it says that he's a "Fanatic Henchman" A.K.A Insane XD
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Where it says that? :confused: To me he is way too calm to be fanatic or insane. :ohnoes:
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MusicAndArtIsMyLife Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013
behind the box when you buy Transformers Prime Beast Hunter Deluxe Soundwave
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, I see. :D Since it's Beast Hunter design which never happened actually in the series I can still think of him being just calm and quiet follower of Megatron. :aww:
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MusicAndArtIsMyLife Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013
well I'm sure that he will be insane in the 2014 series :D
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pika Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That means IF he finds a way out of the Shadowzone and IF he is in the new series since it's sort of a continuum of Prime. :nuu:
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poisonouswords Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2013
Unfortunately, that may be true.
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Twilightnite Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013
Wouldn't it be also good to have the minicons he had before the war join in Soundwave's fight with Megatron? Just curious
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pika Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That would be a nice idea, but not in a gladiatorial match where they could get badly hurt or even worse; die. I doubt Soundwave had lost any fights since he faced Megatron and they both are still alive, thus him not needing his minicons. Instead they're cheering for Soundwave in the crowd! :nod:
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Twilightnite Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
I can agree with Laserbeak but Rumble and Frenzy seem like fighters and tough lil buggers as well.
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pika Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If we take the approach of War for Cybertron, if they on solo can't defeat three Autobots (Soundwave fight), I doubt they have chances against Megatron as duo with Soundwave. And it was written in the novel about how Soundwave and Megatron fought about on equal ground with no mention of the minions. In Fall of Cybertron they made short work of Autobots but that was due to sneak attacking them.
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Twilightnite Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013
true...
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pika Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
But they're still a bunch of small tough bots ;)
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Twilightnite Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
That's what I meant...
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JediKacee Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
Man, that would have been a cool flashback episode of the show! 
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pika Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
But yet again, we fans are left thirsty! :drool:
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Soundwave200 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
This is truely amazing!
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pika Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks! Oh and nice avatar you have currently. ;)
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Soundwave200 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013
Ohohohoho~! Thank you!
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Lovershlaser Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2013
Amazing artwork!!!!
Its awesome!!!! :3
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MortuaCor Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2013
I see Loki!
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pika Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I feel sorry for you.
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DeadEnd669 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013
love it really nice work!!!
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